Gustloff Werke Waffenwerk Suhl

Here is a classic 12-gauge shotgun with juxtaposed-barrels, made in Germany, "war" manufacture since it was marked 1940 (according to the owner, see also below); the concordance of the but is not perfect, and/or the gun has suffered... On the contrary, the guns are in relatively good condition on the outside, perhaps they have been bronzed during their lifetime.

Markings

ST: Unidentified; these two letters are not in harmony with the whole rifle...

N under eagle: first test

M under eagle: second proof ?

G: probably Gustloff

12 in a circle (if I see correctly): almost certainly the caliber

70 mm: the length of the casing

Gustloff Werke Waffenwerk Suhl: in fact the new name of the famous Simson Company of Suhl, founded in 1856 by the two Jewish brothers Lb and Moses Simson. It became BSW Berlin Suhler Waffen in 1936 and then Gustloff Werke Waffenwerk Suhl in 1939.

BXIII (?): not identified.

Fluss Stahl Krupp Essen: type of steel produced by Krupp in Essen

840 : according to the attached site, it should be the date : 8 for the month of August, 40 for 1940 of course.

https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/just-got-this-german-ww2-era-side-by-side-shotgun-need-help-with-markings.220580/

It should be noted also and above all the presence on this second weapon (caliber 16) of "funny buttons" next to the holes of the firing pin which of course ask a "problem".

At first, we thought of off-centre percussion firing pin, but this does not hold up because as far as we know, in 1940 there were no hunting cartridges with annular percussion (in any case, an annular percussion cartridge is almost incompatible with modern powders; see also at the end of this leaflet).

In a second phase, we thought of a system to properly orient the cartridge, but we did not find any cartridge requiring such a system, very random indeed.

In the end, two members of the team suggested a system to avoid percussion in avoid, thus triggering the trigger of a chamber without a cartridge, which is not good for a percussion, it is well known. Thats probably the right explanation, even if its very convoluted.

There is one last possible clue: "On the other hand, if this rifle was shipped to the USA after the war (1945 et seq.), this transformation (editor's note: into annular percussion) could be justified, although...  The only known ring percussion cartridges are the 20 Gauge Ballard "short and long cases" and the 16 Gauge Ballard. No 12 Gauge rimfire cartridges appear to have been manufactured.  No period catalog, study, or serious book reveals the existence of a 12 Gauge rimfire." This is what an ammunition expert tells us. This would involve the use of reduction tubes. But this last lead seems very unlikely.

GP with the help of MAX, DZ and FL.

 

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