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Dumonthier

I am sending photos and information on a somewhat rare French Dumontheir pinfire revolver.

It has the Lepage Freres name on top of the barrel, with the the Paris address. I know from information you have given me before that Lepage Freres was registered with the Liege proofhouse from 1857 to 1868, and that Lepage Freres is also listed in your French section as "Agents". Would the Lepage marks on the barrel of this Dumonthier revolver mainly indicate that it was being sold through the Lepage business in Paris? Or would there be some other relationship between Lepage and Dumonthier?

Would this be considered a Dumonthier-Lepage revolver, or would it rather be a Dumonthier that was marketed by Lepage?

Dumonthier DA Pinfire Revolver,

chambered for: cal 12mm Pinfire cartridge

serial #879

dimensions: barrel 5-3/4 inches (146mm), overall length 10-1/2 inches (266mm)

The revolver has the early open frame design, it has a six-shot cylinder, the extractor rod is housed in a fixed tube attached to the bottom of the barrel. The barrel begins with a short octagonal section integrally attached to the lower part of the barrel assembly. The barrel assembly is attached to the revolver's frame by screwing onto the center post, and the assembly is held tightly by a screw into the bottom of the revolver's frame. The longer section of the barrel itself is round. The bore has 4-groove rifling with a right hand twist. The revolver extends its frame through the one-piece grip in a narrow, round, almost tube-like piece that passes through the center of the ebony grip. This same extension of the frame also holds the main spring. The grip is held to the revolver at the bottom by a threaded section of the lanyard ring assembly.

marks -

on the left of the barrel assembly: DUMONTHIER Bté SGDG (c1870)

on the right of the barrel assembly: 879

on rear of cylinder: B

on top of the barrel: LEPAGE FRERES A PARI 12 RUE D' ENGHIEN (second half of lettering hardly readable)

on all parts: 4

Richard Young

It is indeed a Dumonthier revolver. Realized at Dumonthier and sold by Lepage Brothers. It was of habit, at the XIXème century that the retailers mark with their name part of the weapons which they sold. One finds thus at the time of Perrin or S & W marked Claudin…

Lepage brothers lay out in Paris, street of Enhien, a vast store of exposure where they proposed with their customers an important choice of French and Belgian weapons.

Jean-Pierre Bastié

Many thanks to Dave and Richard Young for the nice pictures

Dumonthier

Dumonthier pepperbox 7 mm

Dumonthier was an arms manufacturer in Paris about 1870, Holy Faubourg Martin and then Rue of the small Hotels, the manufacture being in Sailleville in Oise.

The whole of this pepperbox nicely is assembled and finished, all the weapon polished and is engraved with sheets, rinceaux and lianas.

The stick is of only one part, it seems to me in drowning and holding position by the ring of cap.

The door of loading opens upwards. While opening it slightly raises the hammer making it possible the barrel to freely turn.

Retractable trigger.

Curiously the weapon is not provided with a rod of ejection.

Current weight: 325 grams

Overall length: 125 mm

Length barrel: 52 mm

Diameter of the barrel: 29 mm grooved

Gauge: 7 mm with pin, 6 blows

Only function in double action.

Markings and punches

· On the whole of the parts E 1

· On the barrel a P leant with an E turned over in an oval that corresponds to the punch of test of Paris.

· A B inside the cylinder on the side of the breech.

On the left side of breech “DUMONTHIER Bté SGDG” in oval with in lower part the number 1058

Guillaume

A French firm manufactures the necessary to reload this type of ammunition.

Look at here: H & C Collection

Dumonthier

Double Barrel Percussion "Knife Pistol": .36 cal. perc., 2-shot, 3 1/2" round barrels on each side of 8" double edge blade. The two percussion cap locks have unusual hammers, fired by a single folding trigger. When the blade is sheathed, the hammers seem to be simply cross guards but can be fired while still in the sheath. The blade is marked "Dumonthier de Paris" "Breveté".

Thanks to "CWSLAGLEANTIQUES" for the picture.

DUMONTHIER-FILS, Paris

Made combination dagger with two barrel pistol, cal. circa .44 percussion. The blade from hilt to tip is 9¼" (235mm) long, the barrel length is 4". The black and distinctive grip is made from hard-rubber with a flat butt cap. While cocking the left or right hammer a trigger accordingly drops out of the frame. According to Frost's book, page 57 this type is called "Cardinal's pistol being under the assumption that various princes of the Catholic Church carried pistols of the nature with them for personal protection."

Photographs friendly authorized by "HORST HELD"